Premier Starmer geht: „Die Frage ist, kann Burnham liefern?“

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00:00:06: Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first.

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00:00:35: In case of a contest, this will ensure that a new leader is in place before Parliament returns in September.

00:00:44: I'll remain in post as Prime Minister until it's complete And do everything i can to ensure an orderly handover that is far stronger and fairer than the one I inherited two years ago.

00:01:08: Bad environmental values and a party-internary election have become dependent at the time.

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00:01:41: press correspondent Peter Stoiber in London about the political chaos between the British and the British on how the country has changed over the past ten years since the Brexit referendum and how it could go on politically there now.

00:01:55: Hello Peter Stuiber!

00:02:01: Yes hello Christina

00:02:02: Peter Kirstama, he had announced his retreat on Monday afternoon.

00:02:06: What impression did the Stammer have of his relatively short speech?

00:02:12: He was very serious and very impressed.

00:02:15: You saw that it was hard for him to not want to do this at all in the end when he spoke about his family, that he wanted me to spend more time with my family.

00:02:26: He had tears in his eyes so... It was pretty emotional towards the end but In general, we have already seen that he would rather remain Prime Minister further and that this decision was very difficult for him.

00:02:38: And in the end it has actually been forced by his party colleagues and especially people from the cabinet.

00:02:48: This retreat was not

00:02:50: particularly surprising.

00:02:51: Already in the last few days and weeks, the signs have been hinted at.

00:02:57: why actually?

00:02:58: What are the reasons for this?

00:03:01: obviously also unsatisfied with Stama who was there?

00:03:04: The problem is that in recent months a lot of things have come together which have undergone so much trust in Kistama And his party colleagues all over the country But they were convinced that he was not the right person to lead this country.

00:03:23: For example, many months ago it started at the end of last year, the affair around Peter Manderson, the ambassador who became president after Washington or became president in twenty-four years even though there is a very big premonition against him because that's his time.

00:03:39: Simply put, he's kind of dubious politician and... Then it came out that the secret to internal friends, to Jeffrey Epstein and so on and so forth.

00:03:48: And this asked him why he was actually put in there at all?

00:03:51: And then the decisions were followed by the fact that Kirsten knew about them, that they had reserved it for him but he still put it into action.

00:03:58: That pushed him under pressure.

00:04:02: And I would say such an experience which has been re-cooked over a period of time for months now didn't do much better than that either.

00:04:09: The political problem is that the Labour Party is very unpopular, and Gestama personally is very popular.

00:04:15: He's one of the most popular Prime Ministers in modern history!

00:04:21: And this happened very quickly.

00:04:23: It went down very quickly after the election, a very clear election.

00:04:27: In year twenty-four it was very fast to vote in the cellar.

00:04:31: in the past months.

00:04:32: It was decided, for example, that the municipal election at the beginning of May was expected to be cut off very badly and she cut it down very badly .

00:04:43: And then they came up with a question whether Starmer could survive on this topic , which has now become more and more prominent over the last few weeks because there were retreats from West Street, the Health Minister and then John Healey, the Defense Minister exactly.

00:04:58: And it was decided in Make-A-Field last week by Andy Burnham.

00:05:04: When he came back, that was the outcome of his success.

00:05:06: Andy Burnam has been mayor of Manchester for a long time now and

00:05:09: recently he also had a seat at parliament.

00:05:16: What makes him so popular with the population?

00:05:21: So why is it getting

00:05:22: so much better?

00:05:22: There are several reasons to this.

00:05:24: On the one hand, he is the mayor of the region Manchester.

00:05:28: He has a very special role that is very locally anchored and in this role which he had since it was made into a good job in the eyes I was in control of the bus system.

00:05:47: That's why it has been considered a success as a successor.

00:05:50: The buses have become cheaper, they are better organized and so on.

00:05:54: It was one such big project that worked very well.

00:05:59: And then she also presented herself a little bit like an internal opposition to this centralization in Great Britain.

00:06:07: You called her King Of The North, the king of the north.

00:06:13: Game of Thrones, yeah?

00:06:14: So he had a very important role and presented the local politics.

00:06:21: He said Manchester is important in Northern England – it's important!

00:06:25: And this centralized system in Great Britain has affected many residents as well because many people want to take down that centralization and decide everything from London out.

00:06:34: And so this internal opposition helped him a lot.

00:06:39: And then it's like he is a different type of politician.

00:06:43: He's much more independent, he has a bit of health and doesn't really talk with much conviction.

00:06:49: or you don't buy him off that.

00:06:51: what he actually says also believes in.

00:06:53: And Burnen seems to be very folk-like and he comes over authentically.

00:06:59: so this authenticity is something that is always important for politicians.

00:07:07: Yes, the people who can speak better.

00:07:09: And he also contributed to it because he won so many Households.

00:07:13: Of course there is another question like how if you are Prime Minister then has a completely different role?

00:07:19: Then he will be in office at Westminster in London and that could run very differently.

00:07:23: but for now he's the favorite of the Household and looks as though he would soon become Prime Minister.

00:07:28: So Household favourites.

00:07:30: otherwise nobody else exists within the Labour Party which brings themselves

00:07:35: into position.

00:07:35: It's interesting that there were other candidates like this.

00:07:42: But a few hours after the back-up explanation by Kirsten Dahmer, one of these lawyers made a comeback.

00:07:51: That was West Reading who always said he wanted to join in with me as a health minister and came back on May.

00:07:58: He has always said I will definitely be joining him during a leadership battle.

00:08:02: West Reading is rather on the right side of Labour Party, in a different sense than Andy Burnham who's more to the left.

00:08:10: And West Reading suddenly said that he won't do it now because he spoke with Andy Burnam and convinced him that Andy Burnum was the right man.

00:08:17: so I hope everyone else will support me again than Andy Burnham.

00:08:23: And with that it became very uncertain who else would still be able to address.

00:08:27: In the conversation Angela Rayner, former Vice Prime Minister, was also talking about Shabana Mahmoud, the internal minister of those two politicians has not yet been reported and because Andy Burnam is so much more popular there as all others a competition in any case would run out anyway that Burnham wins!

00:08:48: There you naturally ask yourself what is its purpose?

00:08:51: There would be discussions, internal discussion going on.

00:08:55: There will then be replacements.

00:08:57: It's not necessarily what the Labour Party is now presenting – this image of a split party isn't something you want to see anymore and that's why at present it looks as if there was a kind of crown.

00:09:12: So that Andy Burnham takes office without competitors

00:09:20: and could probably become a feminist in July.

00:09:25: How realistic is this scenario?

00:09:28: Not

00:09:28: very realistic.

00:09:29: This is also a routine that we know, opposition parties always say they need new elections because their job is to call out new elections.

00:09:40: it needs a majority in parliament and the majority has the Labour Party, which is still pretty clear.

00:09:46: And for the Labour party it would be quite easy to call out a new ballot.

00:09:50: It's not even possible that Andy Burnham, if he becomes Prime Minister will be so confident about his new mandate.

00:09:57: but it'd be very easy because in recent two years the Labour parties have fallen far down.

00:10:02: They move around eighteen percent.

00:10:06: The reform party, the party of Nigel Farage is at about twenty-five or twenty-six percent.

00:10:13: So clearly above it and there could be very strong self damage to the Labour Party when they would call out new elections.

00:10:22: so I mean that's clear.

00:10:23: The opposition party demands a new election but this will come, which i

00:10:28: don't think.

00:10:28: Two years ago was Prime Minister Dharma, the first Labour prime minister since in two thousand ten, for a long time.

00:10:36: Which conclusion do you draw after his sentence?

00:10:38: The

00:10:39: problem is a bit that he was not particularly effective.

00:10:41: There has been great problems for a long time in Great Britain, and this problem did not really apply to him at the time.

00:10:48: Of course, during the elections of year four and twenty-four he promised big changes.

00:10:54: After fourteen years Tory governments are now coming to Labour, we're doing everything better!

00:10:58: That was the big promise and it didn't really work.

00:11:01: He was way too conservative, he did a lot of things, for example at least in Lonerwüt where he strengthened the rights of the workers.

00:11:12: but that all went down because with many other views as far as politics has gone so far like before For instance there is always such a huge life-threatening crisis for the bribes, which are daily.

00:11:25: costs in recent years have gone up very strongly.

00:11:29: Heizung, housing and so on, food.

00:11:32: And that's something that is a hand-to-hand problem for many bribers .

00:11:37: There was nothing done to somehow keep it.

00:11:40: You can still see why this lady isn't just an convincing politician.

00:11:43: She never told stories like what she wants him do?

00:11:46: That they always make such decisions for a prime minister!

00:11:48: What is the overordered project ?

00:11:49: What is division?

00:11:51: for the country.

00:11:52: That's what it was like, different new states tried and the new state that were always, they are kind of puffed up.

00:11:59: And so very early on a few weeks after the election in twenty-four, it was clear that the four states could

00:12:14: not hold onto this corresponding large battle anymore .

00:12:26: So I kept that to myself.

00:12:28: The whole thing is now happening around an atom where

00:12:33: many places are already very interested in the United Kingdom.

00:12:38: Yes, you can read the idea I was talking about ten years ago.

00:12:42: how it would come to an end, what that means.

00:12:43: There are very idyllic and poetic descriptions of how Großbritannien would look like thanks to Brexit And all this has not been preserved at all.

00:12:52: It is quite desolate.

00:12:53: the circumstances I have already mentioned some The hospitalization costs, the infection is very high.

00:13:00: The health service of this Marode Health Service was also promised by one of Brexit leaders ten years ago that a lot of money would flow into the health services.

00:13:09: That's not all!

00:13:11: during a water system that is damaged, pollution and so on.

00:13:15: Of course Brexit didn't cause all of this.

00:13:18: And some problems just came out like that too... ...and they were also created without Brexit.

00:13:22: but the Brexit did not help him anymore.

00:13:24: he had many problems, for example with inflation.

00:13:26: it went up very strongly in accordance to the Russian invasion into Ukraine But through the trade barriers everything has become a bit more expensive anyway.

00:13:34: Yes there are always so much developments which have caused Brexit And that's why the country is, in principle, in a desolate constitution than it would have been without Brexit.

00:13:50: The statistics say something pretty clear too – that the economic power has gone back up to six or eight percent and you can already feel this.

00:13:59: In total there was Brexit ten years after the referendum, quite an incident.

00:14:03: A lot of British people see that

00:14:06: when you think about current issues.

00:14:07: But is now a possible return to the EU actually a discredited possibility?

00:14:15: Or do they say that one issue, but in reality it has already been found

00:14:23: out with the decision?

00:14:24: Yes there are certain adjustments.

00:14:26: so for a long time after the referendum It was so that the Brexit should not be doubted at all.

00:14:31: Then quickly a right-wing conservative media came in, who wrote an article about Brexit Omer Tahr.

00:14:36: So one says you just don't have to ask for this topic anyway.

00:14:40: That is now based on the rumours that there are.

00:14:43: They became very pro-European and would like to talk about its great majority back into the EU or at least give it a referendum against Brexit.

00:14:51: Just because of the problem... It doesn't really look like it would happen in the next few years.

00:14:58: There are no politicians who openly say they want to go back into the EU, there is more of a movement that says we want closer ties with the EU and we want to dismantle the hands of Hamnists the exchange of workers, students and students to make it easier for them.

00:15:18: That's how you connect a little bit closer with the EU without just doubting the decision made in year two thousand and sixteen.

00:15:28: So there has already been a shift in recent years.

00:15:29: In addition then right now from the Labour Party where some leading politicians have also talked about a better relationship towards the EU.

00:15:42: But what you just said, we want to go back into the EU.

00:15:46: That's

00:15:47: not yet the case at the moment and that is still not the case.

00:15:53: Does this also relate to the ten-year Brexit referendum?

00:15:59: So do British people not know what they want politically at all?

00:16:02: The

00:16:03: connection between these government changes and Brexit is already there.

00:16:07: It's a bit different in any case, so basically it is as if Brexit has led an era of instability into politics And that lies among other things on such a populistic dynamic.

00:16:24: That's what happened at the Tory party.

00:16:27: They were more and more radicalized, so Brexit leaders worked up the most important wings within the Tory Party.

00:16:35: Then they turned on the tone and everyone else had to follow.

00:16:38: Theresa May for example, who had to retreat in December of year.

00:16:41: two thousand and seventeen... sorry, nineteen!

00:16:44: The reason was that she wasn't excited enough.

00:16:47: Yes, that was this one dynamic which is also parallel to the rise of radical rights with Nigel Farage, namely Brexit Party and which then became reform UK.

00:16:57: Also it has so that the party system can be turned into each other,

00:17:03: i.e.,

00:17:03: these two parties systems you had in the post-Brexit period because they always won in the Labor Party or Invertebrates, a little bit different from what happened at the US.

00:17:13: That's getting more and more complicated now as we assume or even before, that Great Britain will become a multi-party system similar to most European countries.

00:17:24: That there is going to be coalitions in the government in the future.

00:17:31: And the important development lies with the rise of right-wing radicalism under Nigel Farage who is the strongest party and which certainly promotes this development.

00:17:41: I can't say for sure that Great Britannia became unregistered But it's just not what the majority of people want.

00:17:54: And now I can ask Andy Burnham to deliver this, and he is already in a situation that everything else than simple is.

00:18:03: The economy will also be very strongly influenced by international developments as a prime minister, or as the Chancellor of Schatz.

00:18:13: But I'm already a bit limited because Großbritannien has set out much more power than other teachers in terms of business.

00:18:24: And how anti-Burnham is going to master this?

00:18:26: It will show itself but his approach when he becomes prime minister falls into an interesting time in contemporary history

00:18:36: An interesting time in British history.

00:18:39: Peter Stoiber, thank you very much and good bye to London!

00:18:41: Yes,

00:18:42: thanks a lot, good bye back to Munich.

00:18:43: To continue reading

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00:18:50: I say Thank You for listening and stay tuned until next time.